aloha

samnhong

u ppl r interesting...

i wld luv 2 communicate wif u all...bt i hv a prob here...i dun think i can write chinese in the tradisional version...tats lots of words tat i cant understand...can i use han4yu3ping4ying1???

pls...pls...pls...

samnhong

funny...

kind people led by stupid leaders...taiwan is a island of treasure with lovely people...dirty politicians however...

samnhong

LP???

as a minister, guess this is just not the right thing from him... he is doing harm to taiwan reputation, ya?

in fact, i can see some of your ministers even fight when they dont share the same thinking...not offending...but shame of taiwan for this...

fanchi

Originally posted by superman at 2005-1-9 11:51 AM:
看到英文略語，都會想到外交部長發言後、臺灣媒體所發明的"LP"，這才是英文略語的經典。

說到LP...
想到在下高中時就發明這個名詞了...
可不可以告陳先生侵權啊
那時我一個同學開口發語詞就是"X！XX啦"(台語)
後來我覺得要提升氣質...
用英文拼音來代替XX就是LP...
後來他的綽號就是LP了...
當初看到這風波時還蠻親切的...

samnhong

thanks, TM351...

i personally found that taiwanese is very kind hearted...so many useful advices from your guys...

hope that i will be able to communicate with you people in mandarin soon...

TM351

http://www.cnpedia.com/pages/knowledge/baserule.htm
漢語拼音與注音符號基本規則對照表

中央大學數學系單維彰教授整理（http://cls.admin.yzu.edu.tw/pronounce.htm）

2000年10月15日更新

一﹑基本規則

聲母 (CONSONANT)

ㄅ ㄆ ㄇ ㄈ ㄉ ㄊ ㄋ ㄌ ㄍ ㄎ ㄏ ㄐ ㄑ ㄒ ㄓ  ㄔ  ㄕ ㄖ ㄗ ㄘ ㄙ

b    p  m   f   d    t   n   l    g   k   h    j    q   x  zh  ch  sh   r   z   c   s

玻 坡 摸 佛 得 特 訥 勒 哥 科 喝 基 欺 希  知  蚩  詩 日 資 雌 思

韻母 (VOWEL)

ㄚ ㄛ ㄜ  ㄝ  ㄞ ㄟ  ㄠ  ㄡ ㄢ  ㄣ  ㄤ  ㄥ  ㄦ

a   o   e    e  ai  ei   ao ou an en ang eng  er

啊 喔 鵝 (耶) 哀 紏  熬  歐 安  恩  昂   (亨) 兒

  ㄧ ㄧㄚ ㄧㄛ ㄧㄝ ㄧㄠ ㄧㄡ ㄧㄢ ㄧㄣ ㄧㄤ  ㄧㄥ

C+ i    ia     io      ie     iao     iu     ian    in     iang   ing

+   yi   ya    yo      ye    yao   you    yan   yin   yang ying

  衣  呀   唷   耶   腰   憂     煙   因   央     英

     ㄨ ㄨㄚ ㄨㄛ ㄨㄞ ㄨㄟ ㄨㄢ ㄨㄣ ㄨㄤ  ㄨㄥ

C+ u    ua     uo    uai     ui      uan   un   uang  ong

+   wu   wa   wo    wai    wei   wan wen wang weng

   屋    蛙    窩     歪   威      彎     溫     汪   翁

    ㄩ ㄩㄝ ㄩㄢ ㄩㄣ ㄩㄥ ㄋㄩ ㄌㄩ

C+ u    ue    uan    un     iong

+    yu   yue  yuan   yun   yong

Z+  nv   lv

   迂    約    冤     暈     雍    女   律

C + -> 前面帶有聲母的時候

+ -> 前面沒有聲母的時候,

Z + -> 中央法的特例

TM351

Originally posted by samnhong at 2005-1-10 09:40 PM:
by the way, anyone can teach me the taiwan style of zhu4 ying1?

先給妳注音符號鍵盤 (ㄒ一ㄢ ㄍㄟˇ ㄋ一ˇㄓㄨˋㄧㄣ ㄈㄨˊㄏㄠˋㄐㄧㄢˋㄆㄢˊ)

[ Last edited by TM351 on 2005-1-11 at 01:09 ]

farley

Originally posted by samnhong at 2005-1-10 08:50 PM:
hey...i got a question here...if i am lou2 zhu3...then you people??? lou2 ke4...my guest???

right? or there is another way to address you guys???

您所說的樓主、樓客關係應該是沒有錯的。

Larry

國民外交還是要靠各位善良的百姓，一點一滴慢慢累積，
靠那個丟人現眼的LP部長，是沒啥路用的啦～！

有道是：「教學相長」
就當作練習英文讀寫吧～！
大家就陪陪這位 samnhong 妹妹多聊聊囉。

AlexPro

謎之音：你還是寫中文吧~~ 看不懂啊~~

samnhong

by the way, anyone can teach me the taiwan style of zhu4 ying1?

samnhong

我是华人...ok?

i may not master chinese language...but i am willing to learn...you all may not used to this...so many stupid questions asked...hehehe...

still, i would appreciate everyone's guidances...that is the only way i can improve my chinese...

so, continue laugh at me...but ensure i learn something in return,ok?

samnhong

hey...i got a question here...if i am lou2 zhu3...then you people??? lou2 ke4...my guest???

right? or there is another way to address you guys???

wind001

這串對話 真是有趣
有英文 中文
又有拼音文
又有名詞解釋

哈哈 太有趣了

stone180

Originally posted by 阿輝 at 2005-1-9 15:23:
抱歉請不用 PM 給我
雖然在就讀研究所之後我個人英文能力已經大增

不過這篇包括 PM 給我的我還是看不懂..

請見諒

看到這，我笑了！
老實說，我也看得很辛苦|)

BBelief

Originally posted by samnhong at 2005-1-9 05:47 PM:
people,

thank you very much for the info and suggestion...indeed, i wanted to learn...however, this version of chinese language seem to be much more complicated than i ever thought of...

so, please give me some time allowance, ok? i got to check with dictionary of what you guys are talking about...

pai seh...(bu4 hao3 yi4 si4)...

ni3 hai2 shi4 yong4 ying wen2 ba4!

irvin

Originally posted by florence.hsieh at 2005-1-10 01:52 AM:
樓主=u(哈哈哈!)

the one who start the conversation|)
you can refer the whole message of this topic as a high bulding,
then you are the one who start to build the house.
The usage of 樓主 on the forum topic is orginal from mainland china.8D

samnhong

好康？？？
菜鸟？？？
灌水？？？
楼主？？？

i am very confused,??? what is all these???

samnhong

pai seh is widely used in sgp...even apply to indians or malays...so, nothing to do with hokien...

yup...i am a "cha bo"(female)...why? gender discrimination?

but i am not a sister anymore...instead, a aunty...hehehe...

do you think i will still get reply after this? aunty, then everyone "bo chap"(don't bother)...

Larry

Originally posted by samnhong at 2005-1-9 17:47:
people,

thank you very much for the info and suggestion...indeed, i wanted to learn...however, this version of chinese language seem to be much more complicated than i ever thought of...

so, please give me some time allowance, ok? i got to check with dictionary of what you guys are talking about...

pai seh...(bu4 hao3 yi4 si4)...

Ha!~.... you speak Hokien too?

BTW, you mean you are not a "brother", are you a "sister"?

samnhong

people,

thank you very much for the info and suggestion...indeed, i wanted to learn...however, this version of chinese language seem to be much more complicated than i ever thought of...

so, please give me some time allowance, ok? i got to check with dictionary of what you guys are talking about...

pai seh...(bu4 hao3 yi4 si4)...

heuynish

這有一個聲母, 韻母的表, 用幾次就會了, 沒差很多, 不過剛開始我有是就是拼不出我要的字, (像 綠=LV, 女=NV, 在聲母韻母表是 u 加上面兩點, 像法文, 德文那樣), 我是用微軟注音, 改漢語鍵盤, 不過選字很笨, 不建議.. http://members.hknet.com/~bpi/learning/symb/pinyin.htmhttp://members.hknet.com/~bpi/learning/symb/pinyin.htm

我的中國朋友說他們多用紫光輸入法, 我還沒空試~

TM351

我可能誤會了樓主的意思。
既然想學正體中文，那只有多看了，雖然有軟體可以正簡互換，但是還是要多看、多寫。
不常用很快就忘了。

samnhong

Originally posted by wind001 at 2005-1-9 04:14 PM:


我想 samnhong你習慣用拼音輸入法 那幫你找了一下 google
網址如下： http://abc.iis.sinica.edu.tw/tp/howtoinstall.htm
你還是裝了拼音輸入法 在上來 阿囉哈囉|)

thanks vy much

wind001

Originally posted by samnhong at 2005-1-9 03:54 PM:
i guess most of you from taiwan? tell me more about your homeland...i am planning to visit this island...once i save enough $$$...hehehe...

singapore...i guess you need not my introductory, right? in fact, myself a malaysian... from ipoh... the city where michelle yeoh came from...

我想 samnhong你習慣用拼音輸入法 那幫你找了一下 google
網址如下： http://abc.iis.sinica.edu.tw/tp/howtoinstall.htm
你還是裝了拼音輸入法 在上來 阿囉哈囉|)

samnhong

i guess most of you from taiwan? tell me more about your homeland...i am planning to visit this island...once i save enough $$$...hehehe...

singapore...i guess you need not my introductory, right? in fact, myself a malaysian... from ipoh... the city where michelle yeoh came from...

samnhong

my godness...

tales, you are so cool...i guess i will need your help in order to continue this conversation...thanks for your help very very much...

ah hui, tales speaks my mind...i am so sorry that i can't write chinese...

pai seh...(bu4 hao3 yi4 si4)

tales

Originally posted by 阿輝 at 2005-1-9 03:23 PM:
抱歉請不用 PM 給我
雖然在就讀研究所之後我個人英文能力已經大增

不過這篇包括 PM 給我的我還是看不懂..

請見諒

需要翻譯嗎？

Originally posted by samnhong at 2005-1-9 03:21 PM:
hey...

wind001 is right...sms is short messange service...most of the time, we send english messange...this is the common language among the youth...

嘿 ...
wind001 說的對 ... SMS 就是簡訊服務 ... 大部分時候，我們都發英文簡訊 ... 這是年輕人之間常用的語言 ...

how about taiwan? you guys practise chinese messange? using ping4 ying1?

台灣呢？你們會練習（輸入？）中文簡訊？用ㄆㄧㄣˋㄧㄣ？

i wanted to learn traditional version of chinese...guess that is very popular in taiwan, right? because hong kong, mainland of china and south east asia,we are using simplified chinese...

我想學繁體中文 ... 我猜那在台灣是最通用的，對吧？因為我們香港、中國大陸與東南亞是用簡體中文 ...

--
大概就這樣。

tales

SMS 簡訊比較偏向私人溝通的場合，只要兩個人不介意，要用什麼樣的文體都可以，
但是同樣的方式不適合使用在如討論區這樣的公開場合。
台灣也有獨特的拼音符號，就是前述的注音，
但時下流行利用注音符號代替正文，在這裡則是不受歡迎的。

相較之下，繁體簡體反而不是什麼大問題，
反正用軟體一轉，繁體也可以是簡體，簡體也可以是繁體。

阿輝

抱歉請不用 PM 給我
雖然在就讀研究所之後我個人英文能力已經大增

不過這篇包括 PM 給我的我還是看不懂..

請見諒

samnhong

hey...

wind001 is right...sms is short messange service...most of the time, we send english messange...this is the common language among the youth...

how about taiwan? you guys practise chinese messange? using ping4 ying1?

i wanted to learn traditional version of chinese...guess that is very popular in taiwan, right? because hong kong, mainland of china and south east asia,we are using simplified chinese...